Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

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Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by mccluckles38 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:46 pm

*Cross post from original forum post*

So, long time lurker, I have had chats with RL members previously, most recently at Star Wars Family Fun Day in Burnley (I'm so sorry, I'm blanking on your name. You were a stand up gent!) and before that I believe I spoke to Philly Peters at a con in Liverpool, who gave me a lot of advice and pointers.

I thought I'd upload my progress so far. I believe I have the bulk of the gear but I am aware, I've barely started!

I am already armed with some Rit dye for the flak jacket and enough sintra and foam to do all the little details. A blaster is also on my to-do list.

A couple of things:
-I'm aware the hat is incorrect. I read the wrong forum thread and got an ep8 Crait rebel trooper hat. I have some Hoth hat templates to work on.

- I'm struggling to source some goggles that won't break the bank, any suggestions? (The ones pictured are 2 cheap pairs from amazon and the 3rd is a pair of Cold War ear Russian aviation goggles.

- The BDU I got is synthetic. Is this a major concern for clearance?

- I got a set of welding gloves, I'm not sure if that's the correct style, does anyone have any reference images?

-I'm not sure where to get a "roller buckle" from, any sources?

-I have plans to add a shed load of black shoe polish to the brown shoes and get them matching the gaiters

If anyone has any comments, feedback or can answer my questions, please let me know!

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edit: I did mess up the HTML business, in my defense, its been over a decade!

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Re: Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by StephenDutton » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:28 am

I got my roller buckle on a PLCE belt from eBay so no alteration needed. Just search 'PLCE belt', the top result (filtered by Best Match)when I do this is the British Army MTP belt with roller buckle that I bought and is £10.95 with free shipping.

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Re: Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by BigFatCat » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:58 am

Nice start, let's go through it step by step and have the standards to hand. Not that there's a huge amount of detail in them but they do list components that can be combined together where there are options for hats and jackets.

http://newsite.rebellegion.com/rebel-marine-scarif/

The required hat is Hoth style so you've got a way forward to make something accurate. Goggles can be found, people do make accurate replicas but I'd expect a reasonably close one piece lens with the outside edge angled back and down and a strap like the pic to be OK. Those aviation ones in your pic are closest in shape but are a two piece lens. A few of the members here have cleared so they may chime in with their sources.

http://i2.wp.com/website.everythinggeek ... ge-171.png

Gloves are an option and not mandatory unless clearing as a particular character, like Melshi. Even then there are stills showing him with and without them. Their screen pattern of sewing is specific and the standard lists them as beige so the ones you depict don't quite look right to me.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4150ac43de7 ... 1_1280.jpg

The BDUs may well be ok if the ripstop isn't visible from a distance. The usual brand and style I've seen mentioned is the Helikon Next SFU which their polycotton ripstop also has that weave. I think you should be OK there as they look to be close to the "chocolate" colour option.

As Stephen has said a roll pin PLCE belt is pretty easy to find, acceptable in coyote/tan/khaki. MTP is OK if you just want to rip the buckle off but that pattern on the belt itself won't be clearable.

Matching the gaiters to the boots is good, something I still have to do better myself now I've distressed the gaiters more,

Three grenade pouch and 58 pattern kidney pair should be fine. Sten bandolier too.

The vest doesn't seem to be the standard M69 style which even then needs work to add a carry pouch to the front and a transponder top left. Let's look into this more deeply later. A pic of the lad from Rizzle Kicks illustrates the layout I mean.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sta ... n_Tonc.png

The jacket to go under the flak vest looks OK but that style may require the columns of little rectangles on the sleeves. Nothing we haven't handled before as long as the contrast well in colour. Where did you get that jacket from? Does it have sleeve pockets as it may look better if they come off?

The other pouches you show I can't place their original. Again they are optional and the standards do include possible choices if you want to add them in later.

Biggest question I have is the flak vest. Have a look at the reference, plus there are others with a quick image search but it seems we would be looking for a zipped front with a small trapezoidal velcro flap. There is a different vest variation with an open back, more like a life vest. This is worn by Melshi with a long, pullover smock type jacket. You can see there are vest differences in the Tonc and Melshi pics.

You've got a fine base of stuff there so if we can tidy up some of the other details, you should be good. We do have members cleared in very similar looks to what you have here so hopefully we can get more input to help you.
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Re: Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by BigFatCat » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:53 pm

Any progress to share at this point? Wondered how things were going.
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Re: Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by mccluckles38 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:48 am

StephenDutton wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:28 am
I got my roller buckle on a PLCE belt from eBay so no alteration needed. Just search 'PLCE belt', the top result (filtered by Best Match)when I do this is the British Army MTP belt with roller buckle that I bought and is £10.95 with free shipping.
I've got one on order now, thank you!

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Re: Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by mccluckles38 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:22 am

BigFatCat wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:58 am
Nice start, let's go through it step by step and have the standards to hand. Not that there's a huge amount of detail in them but they do list components that can be combined together where there are options for hats and jackets.

http://newsite.rebellegion.com/rebel-marine-scarif/

The required hat is Hoth style so you've got a way forward to make something accurate. Goggles can be found, people do make accurate replicas but I'd expect a reasonably close one piece lens with the outside edge angled back and down and a strap like the pic to be OK. Those aviation ones in your pic are closest in shape but are a two piece lens. A few of the members here have cleared so they may chime in with their sources.

http://i2.wp.com/website.everythinggeek ... ge-171.png

Gloves are an option and not mandatory unless clearing as a particular character, like Melshi. Even then there are stills showing him with and without them. Their screen pattern of sewing is specific and the standard lists them as beige so the ones you depict don't quite look right to me.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4150ac43de7 ... 1_1280.jpg

The BDUs may well be ok if the ripstop isn't visible from a distance. The usual brand and style I've seen mentioned is the Helikon Next SFU which their polycotton ripstop also has that weave. I think you should be OK there as they look to be close to the "chocolate" colour option.

As Stephen has said a roll pin PLCE belt is pretty easy to find, acceptable in coyote/tan/khaki. MTP is OK if you just want to rip the buckle off but that pattern on the belt itself won't be clearable.

Matching the gaiters to the boots is good, something I still have to do better myself now I've distressed the gaiters more,

Three grenade pouch and 58 pattern kidney pair should be fine. Sten bandolier too.

The vest doesn't seem to be the standard M69 style which even then needs work to add a carry pouch to the front and a transponder top left. Let's look into this more deeply later. A pic of the lad from Rizzle Kicks illustrates the layout I mean.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sta ... n_Tonc.png

The jacket to go under the flak vest looks OK but that style may require the columns of little rectangles on the sleeves. Nothing we haven't handled before as long as the contrast well in colour. Where did you get that jacket from? Does it have sleeve pockets as it may look better if they come off?

The other pouches you show I can't place their original. Again they are optional and the standards do include possible choices if you want to add them in later.

Biggest question I have is the flak vest. Have a look at the reference, plus there are others with a quick image search but it seems we would be looking for a zipped front with a small trapezoidal velcro flap. There is a different vest variation with an open back, more like a life vest. This is worn by Melshi with a long, pullover smock type jacket. You can see there are vest differences in the Tonc and Melshi pics.

You've got a fine base of stuff there so if we can tidy up some of the other details, you should be good. We do have members cleared in very similar looks to what you have here so hopefully we can get more input to help you.
Thank you ever so much for this feedback, its more than I could have hoped for!

Apologies about the radio silence I've recently moved in with my partner and it's taken a number of months to get back to my crafting desk. But while I've been gone, I haven't stopped looking out for bits and pieces I can use for this build.

- I have a pattern for a Hoth cap downloaded and ready to go and the Afghan one was passed onto a friend who collects odd hats, so win win there.

- I've recently been sent on a welding course as part of my job, so the gloves have been repurposed and won't be part of the costume. I believe I got too caught up in individual parts I didn't actually look at what was specifically required for this build, whoops!

- I'll look closely at the BDUs and see what I can remove or cover. They need to be weathered a fair amount and I've already washed them a dozen times to get rid of the waterproofing and soften them up a bit.

- A roller buckle is in my eBay basket. The belt I've got looks identical to the one worn by Rizzle Kicks and Melshi...? Unless I've missed something.

- I've got some polish and mud to use on the boots and gaiters.

- Yes the best needs the most amount of work. Dying requires a big pot or my girlfriend will kill me if I use "the good pans" 😂

The vest that I've got is one with a full back. I could in theory carve the back up and put that band of webbing in its place but I'm not overly keen on that idea just yet. Especially if I can get away with leaving it.

Yes, the one I've got is all velcro, but I've removed the trapezoid shape, velcro chest pocket and stomach pockets. That's possibly why it looks so strange, but I've saved everything so I can put chunks back on if need be.

The greeblies I can do by hand with some FoamEx. No problem.

- The combat shirt is from Militaryfirst.com I think. It does have small pockets on the arms that I've yet to tackle and I thought I might need the sleeve squares. Hopefully I can find material in similar colour to the pants.

- Finally the two pouches that you can't place are freebies from ordering the pants and shirt. I'm thinking I could modify them into the one for the flak vest. But if not, I'll use then for some other project.

Blimey, I've got quite a list. Hopefully this week I can do a little bit of work. Thank you for the help and sorry I've been gone for so long 😅

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Re: Scarif Marine Build (Picture heavy!)

Post by BigFatCat » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:12 pm

Never a rush doing these things, take as much time as you feel like. Meeting standards is the aim, but if you find a ref that shows something outside of the standard wording and enclose that with your submission, it can help greatly.

I think we can say the trousers, boots, gaiters and belt (roll pin buckle on the tan plce) will be fine.

There are plenty of nice close up refs to match the hat and goggles to, with coyote or blue to meet the standard. You already are covering that.

Looking at the shirt, it's down as having to be khaki, brown or dark blue, with tan block striping on the sleeves. The one you have looks to be a bit light so it might need to bit of dye to darken. The Tonc pics and one below show a more common but darker shade. Also shows a good size for the arm stripes.

https://i2.wp.com/caps.pictures/201/6-r ... -10920.jpg

The guy second from the right looks kind of what you might be aiming for with a full backed vest over a lighter jacket:

https://i0.wp.com/caps.pictures/201/6-r ... -11007.jpg

The frontal pic of Tonc is good for the top left greeb in its pocket and the pouch with compression straps, and the general vest layout. Dying the green to brown would probably be the more natural colour progression or go down the blue route.

Getting an idea of what your end look is makes it easier to produce the refs if you need them and also plan what you might need to alter.
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