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Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:37 am

... AKA “Bekky’s unnecessarily and impractically large Twi’lek collection, volume II”

Of course, having whinged many a time about what a faff Aayla’s body paint is, I’m making one of the most skimpily dressed Twi’leks in canon. Call me a glutton for punishment!

I am working off references and (whisper it) the 501st CRL for this as, with all due respect, the RL standards are a total joke. Behold:

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The easy part: lekku! I ordered a white silicone set from Twi’lek Pam a while ago. Her silicone pieces have a gorgeous wiggle to them.

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As for paint, I have a big bottle of Proaiir white. According to fellow Twi’s, Femi Taylor (AKA Oola) has confirmed they mixed a little lilac into Lyn Me’s body paint to give it warmth and dimension, and you can clearly see this in the reference shots, so I will experiment with the same:

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I have a load of black stretch faux leather left over from Bazine Netal and also a bikini with a similar shape which I’m going to build the bodysuit around. I’ve ordered white dancer’s tights and ballet shoes (sadly I couldn’t find any white pointe shoes, so that will be a future upgrade!). Further reference pictures:

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by Jerrick Sunrunner » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:39 am

For reference could you post the 501st CRL too?
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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:53 am

Jerrick Sunrunner wrote:For reference could you post the 501st CRL too?
https://databank.501st.com/databank/Costuming:Lyn_Me

Hopefully that link works! As you can see it’s rather more substantive...

Only thing I’m unsure of is if my Lekku will be quite long enough - they’re Pam’s standard length, not the extra long ones. Having said that, although the CRL notes hers to be long, they actually look to me to be a pretty normal length. Mine are the same length as my Aayla and OC lekku, which look comparable to this, to me:

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by dragonhawkz » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:58 am

Bekky,
I have to agree that your lekku look to be correctly in proportion to you. Any longer and I think they may look silly.
Looking forward to watching this develop.

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:02 pm

dragonhawkz wrote:Bekky,
I have to agree that your lekku look to be correctly in proportion to you. Any longer and I think they may look silly.
Looking forward to watching this develop.
I think that part of the CRL may be drafted with reference to the side-on reference image I posted above, but she’s bending her head back really, really far in that picture! I’ll rewatch the special edition this weekend to get some of my own screenshots, but I seriously doubt they’re butt-length normally haha


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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by tenebris » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:41 am

So realistically the lekku are a completely different shape in the central headpiece. (UKG may pick up on that) I'm wondering if you can get that look by putting the lekku at a slightly different angle and stuffing the center, it would reduce the length though. I've not looked to see if anyone makes accurate ones. Wont be a problem with RL.

So glad you picked up on the hint of colour. I would say that as we are rewriting all the CRL'S it would be a good time to put in a pictorial proposal for a new standard. Because lets face it....it couldn't be more basic.

http://newsite.rebellegion.com/lyn-me-twilek/

http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/ ... php?f=1043

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:35 pm

tenebris wrote:So realistically the lekku are a completely different shape in the central headpiece. (UKG may pick up on that) I'm wondering if you can get that look by putting the lekku at a slightly different angle and stuffing the center, it would reduce the length though. I've not looked to see if anyone makes accurate ones. Wont be a problem with RL.
I have thought wayyy too much about this - her Lekku are a bit of a conundrum! Frankly I think they look pretty awful in some shots (e.g that side view - so lumpy?! And don’t get me started on the paint job!)

I frankly have neither the space, the desire or the time to learn how to cast my own lekku, and I’d never come close to making something as lovely as Pam or any other of the sellers out there. I’d considered her Hera-style lekku (which I’m going to use for Xi’an) - they’re wider set but have a much more pronounced point at the end and heart shape from the back, which wouldn’t be accurate either (and she doesn’t make them in a long length anyway I think, so the point is moot!).

So I’m going to try and get the most accurate shape I can within the bounds of “reasonable best efforts” (legal term!). My plan was to keep some more of the stuffing in the head area that I’d usually take out, although god only knows how I’ll manage to make it fit over my hair, and wear them a little higher - hers are definitely more substantial around the head area and have that sort of inverted “W” shape in a lot of the publicity pictures, but then in some other shots look closer to the standard shape (e.g. in the Visual dictionary):

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It’ll take a little experimenting for sure! Hopefully there’s a nice middle ground between wrong-head-shape and too-short that I can find with some trial and error Image

I’m not planning on submitting to 501st at this time, although looking through the Lyn Me’s in my various Facebook groups who have (and Chloe’s pictures, which are used in the standard - pretty sure she’s the judge as well), most people just use the standard shaped lekku so it doesn’t look like a dealbreaker!


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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by tenebris » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:44 pm

Sorry I thought you were submitting for both.........the way the UK branch of the 501st works is that the local GML's approve you, not global like we do......UKG may not take issue, but they are known for being crazy with accuracy and dont always go on the CRL, but tend to look at the refs. what clears in the rest of the world, won't always clear there basically.......Just out of interest I may go and check if any have been approved in the UK before.

It sounds like you have a super solid plan though.......and have stared at them for as long as I have LOL.

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:05 pm

tenebris wrote:Sorry I thought you were submitting for both.........the way the UK branch of the 501st works is that the local GML's approve you, not global like we do......UKG may not take issue, but they are known for being crazy with accuracy and dont always go on the CRL, but tend to look at the refs. what clears in the rest of the world, won't always clear there basically.......Just out of interest I may go and check if any have been approved in the UK before.

It sounds like you have a super solid plan though.......and have stared at them for as long as I have LOL.
I have several costumes made to 501st standards already but never bothered to submit any of them - why break a long standing tradition?! Image I have too much fun trooping with the Rebels to look elsewhere...

You know, I don’t think UKG has ever had a Lyn Me. They’re pretty short on the ground compared to Darth Talon!

I did get some funny looks on the bus today while obsessively zooming in on some of those screenshots. It’s the Huttslayer all over again!


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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:13 am

It’s been a long time with no update on this as I’ve been working on the Armourer, but I’ve decided to take a day tomorrow and try and smash out the majority of this!

I’m using bikini bottoms as a base for the bottom half, which I’ll cover with the same stretchy faux leather as the rest of the costume.

Tried them on and they’re a pretty perfect shape. They’re slightly wider at the top, so I’ve pinned them in slightly to make it a bit more accurate - although not quite as skimpy as on screen to make it a bit more family friendly! These are the tights (two pairs layered) and ballet shoes I’ll be wearing until I find someone who makes white pointe shoes.Image

From the side these are the perfect shape!

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by tenebris » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:02 pm

Looks good.

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by Jerrick Sunrunner » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:12 pm

A great start Bekky!
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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:07 pm

OK, call me insane, but I think the 501st CRL is completely wrong on a few major points (they'd be small points on any other costume but this thing is so tiny it actually covers a substantial part of it!) - I'd love a second/third/any other opinions.

The description of the front portion of the leotard says this: "The chest piece consists of two tear-drop shaped pieces that cross in the centre and connect to the belt. Each piece has a piping line down the middle of the tear-drop."

Not only do I not see a tear-drop shape, I don't see any piping or seams at all.

To me, the front crossed pieces look like they're pretty much straight strips of fabric. Obviously the shape of the bust curves them, and they're cut slightly narrower at the ends where they attach to the waist piece than they are over the bust, but other than that I don't see any seams, piping or obvious shaping - just natural scrunching in the leather/fabric.

And the parts that go under the arms aren't separate straps as stated/implied in the CRL (it says "The chest piece has two long rectangular strips that wrap under the armpits and connect to the back of the collar") - to me these look like a continuation of the main bust/front pieces that attaches to the belt, and only look thinner because they pass through those leather loops that attach to the neckpiece - this scrunches up the fabric, which looks like it also may be twisted a bit where it passes under the arms/up the back to keep the smaller shape, and then the straps look like they're sewn into the neckpiece at the back slightly bunched up rather than lying flat.

Leaving aside the four straps attaching to the collar at the front, the entire of the leotard from the waist up is two pieces - the two straps that attach at the waist, cross over the bust, pass through the loops under the arms and are sewn to the back of the collar.

It also says the collar "has at least three (3) distinct sections layered on top of each other" but to me, it looks like there's only two - one roundish piece flat against the lower neck/collarbone, and a section around the neck itself that is just one piece that's longer than the neck and relatively loose-fitting, and therefore bunches up to give a layered look?

I'm going to watch the film this evening and try and zoom in on some shots that aren't readily available online which may clear things up but would love to know if anyone agrees with me on these very pedantic points... (or disagrees, of course!!)

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by tenebris » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:47 pm

The 501st CRL's are often not correct, or the image and text doesn't match up.....we have the same problem with some of ours.

I agree with your breakdown......I would work to the refs. Keep them all and send them with your submission. You could rewrite a proposal for The RL CRL.

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Re: Bekky’s Lyn Me WIP

Post by BlueRey » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:17 pm

tenebris wrote:The 501st CRL's are often not correct, or the image and text doesn't match up.....we have the same problem with some of ours.

I agree with your breakdown......I would work to the refs. Keep them all and send them with your submission. You could rewrite a proposal for The RL CRL.
Thanks Empathy - if you agree with me then I’m happy to start cutting the fabric haha. I was worried I was missing something obvious under my nose!

I’m not sure why they post such massively detailed requirements if they’re not positive they’re correct... The fact someone’s gone through and taken the trouble to write pages and pages of requirements and details makes me second-guess my own eyes as though they’ve got sources I don’t or something. Although I laughed at the tiny CRL, to be honest it’s better to go the RL route and keep it vague until someone sits down and does the proper research.

I’m writing my own CRL as I go along so will be soliciting opinions on that too!


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