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Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:45 pm

So, this is my progress thread (and ramblings) for my generic resistance pilot costume. It is my first ever attempt at a costume – so please forgive the (probably often) daft questions - if you don’t ask you will never know right?! Also while I’m here, apologies if I ask any questions that have been answered many times on other threads – I’ve probably just missed it!

So why a resistance pilot – well for one they look pretty awesome! I also (somewhat naively) assumed it would be one of the easier costumes to make for my first go but even if(when) it has it's tough moments - I love a challenge! I have limited experience sewing and stuff – so this will probably be kind of a slow one! But it will be all worth it in the end!

I have been reading, researching and (of course) re-watching the movies again for inspiration (any excuse to watch them again!). I have also read through different threads and the costume standards so have began to source materials. Some have been easy to find, others not so much! I think I'm probably getting on my husband's nerves with the constant talking about it all, along with the excitement and sometimes frustration as I begin to wade through everything!

So, to those reading this – If you are about to begin the costume too, I hope the ramblings make sense and help! Those who are already making or completed theirs any gentle prods in the right direction will be gratefully received!!

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:47 pm

Flight suit fabric…
So, this is the first snag I have hit. Finding the right fabric with the right colour!
I have hunted high and low for a UK supplier of the cordura fabric. So, I found a few cordura and cordura style fabrics in a range of red/orange shades in the hopes of finding one that matches and is relatively comfortable! I am just waiting for the samples to be delivered and I am expecting them this week and I will post them up here to get the advice of you all as to which one to go ahead with (although with my strongwoman comp next weekend the posts about them may be delayed a few days).

Helmet…
I have been trying to find a black series helmet to mod, but I am struggling to find one that wont cost me an arm and a leg in customs charges (I am currently watching one on eBay from the UK that ends soon so hopefully I will nab that one!) In the meantime, though I have been thinking about my helmet design – I have a question here:

Are there any colours or designs that are off limits?

I was going to go with a bright pink, dark grey, light grey, white and black colour palette and have done a bit of sketching. If you could take a look and pass on any thoughts?

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by BigFatCat » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:02 am

The screen fabric was quite orange, as shown in some costume displays at cons, but appears different on screen. It's not a pure red, sometimes described as blood orange so keep that in mind.

The common materials we've seen used are the 1000D cordura or the 600D Solar Cherry so popular in the US. I'd read Steven has found a cotton twill that has a similar weave so I'd be interested to see that to compare. My suit is made from the Solar Cherry and it's a far easier wear than the 1000D cordura. Whilst the clothears versions look great, they're quite a physical challenge as that cordura then gets layered with other stuff. If different lights, my suit can sometimes appear more orange so nothing is ever static. Good natural daylight allows a look at a colour in a kind of reference environment if you have samples and pictures.

The helmet is an option, you don't need it to clear and you can add it later. It's a nice piece to personalise and as long as it looks "in universe" with no earthly symbols or text, it's quite an open field. We like the Black Series to have a couple of detail tweaks but they're pretty simple to do. I love the pink and greys, they really work well together. The visor diamond looks a little busy and might be a job to mask and paint. I don't recognise that shape it so that could be a goer.

If you consider there is an option for the Resistance pilot without life vest and helmet, the "Briefing Room" spec, you've an easier path to clearance and you can add the other components to make the cockpit spec pilot. There was a discussion over on the main RL forum: http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/ ... hp?t=97334

Likewise a discussion for the cockpit ready pilot: http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/ ... hp?t=98388

And a handy gallery of a Poe costume: https://www.flickr.com/photos/dcltdw/se ... 000033546/
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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:05 am

Awesome thanks!
I’m expecting a few samples over the next few days so I’ll post them up as soon as I can.

Good to know if I’m still struggling to find things I can go with the briefing room version - thanks for the links too I’ll have a read!

Just can’t wait for my first bits to arrive so I can get stuck in!!

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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:24 pm

Well good news is I got the helmet! It was a tightly fought eBay battle – but I rallied and got the win!! :grin:
So it will be delivered by the weekend - once my competition is done I can make a start on taking it apart and adding my design! Super pleased as it was looking like I wouldn’t be able to get one!

More good news (I’m on a roll!) I have found and ordered some boots:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

They are due to arrive tomorrow. I got them from amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07 ... VXR2&psc=1 they had options for different materials on the ankle bit but I thought the ones in my picture were the closest match?

Still waiting on 6 more fabric samples – I ordered about 10 of them! Once they have all arrived, I will pop up some photos. I’m holding off sharing the other samples until I have them all, just because it will be easier (hoping I may have found a lighter weight, more breathable, matching fabric in the right colour – but the sample isn’t here yet – hopefully tomorrow!)

Thanks
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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by BigFatCat » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:48 pm

Boots seem to be the easiest thing to get for this costume. I've two spare pairs in my garage now.
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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:39 pm

Yes - boots were definitely super easy to find :lol:

Well, I went away for UK’s Strongest Woman at the weekend and returned yesterday to the rest of my fabric samples! :grin: So as I have a couple days away from the gym while I recover I have taken pictures for you all to have a look at.

I have 16 samples in total :shock: , some are clearly not right colour-wise – way too red or way to orange and the cotton twill samples are not the right weave. But I will pop them all up and get your experienced views on them!

The first photo of each is just in normal natural light, the second photo is taken in more direct sunlight to compare and to see some of the weave detailing.

So first we have the 2 1000D cordura samples from farbricuk.com:

Fabric 1:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Fabric 2:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

These are very heavy fabrics (as im sure some of you know) and I think the red is too red, the orange with a bit of weathering would look very similar I think?

Next is a 600D Cordura, from EU Fabrics on eBay – however I again think this is too red?

Fabric 3:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

In terms of thickness and breathability it is pretty much the same as the 1000D – maybe less good quality in terms of the feel of it.

Next I have a canvas from RPtextilesolutions on eBay – I was literally just looking for cordura style fabrics and the weave pattern matched! However – this is way too bright orange I think!

Fabric 4:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

In terms of feel – it feels exactly the same as the 1000D cordura

Another canvas – this from AExpress on eBay – this is a duller orange, and sometimes you look at it and it looks similar, other times it doesn’t.

Fabric 5:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
This one feels lighter than the cordura – easier to handle but still coated so not breathable at all!

Next we have a Madrid Canvas – from Fabrics10 on eBay – in orange again.

Fabric 6:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

This is very lightweight compared to the cordura – still coated but very easy to handle – maybe slightly better in terms of breathability!

This next fabric is by far my favourite – A cotton duck canvas from A_fabrics on eBay. It has the same weave pattern as the cordura – but it is not coated and is completely breathable! Its just cotton! I will admit I got super excited when seeing this one as colour wise I think (hope :smile: ) its pretty darn close!

Fabric 7:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

I mentioned its super breathable – here is a pic of the same fabric up against the window – you can see how thin it is – so would obviously need layering up or backing but maybe a solid lead?

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Next is the same cotton duck canvas but in red this time – lovely material but just too red I think?

Fabric 8:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr


Then we have the 6 samples I got from activefabrics.co.uk – unfortunately they only gave me 2cm by 4cm samples here, these first two are cordura again:

Fabric 9:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Fabric 10:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

This one the colour maybe looks similar to the reference images – possibly a few shades off though?

Then we have the canvas – I got a terracotta sample thinking (hoping) it would be close – but seeing it in person I don’t think it is:

Fabric 11:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Fabric 12:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Then we have the cheaper breaker canvas fabrics – I just took a gamble on these and again I just don’t think the colour is quite there on either:

Fabric 13:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Fabric 14:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Finally we have the cotton twill fabrics from ohsewcrafty on eBay. I was optimistic about these but looking at the weave pattern – it isn’t right

Fabric 15:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Fabric 16:

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Sorry to bombard you with images! I just want to be sure on the fabric. I like number 7 – I think the weave is right and the colour I think? (but I may be getting carried away with the super lightweight feel of the fabric and more praying its that one! :lol: ) Failing that I thought maybe 5, 6 and 1 were my next best options!

Off the topic of fabrics – my helmet arrived :grin: and I am starting to take that apart this weekend so progress pics will be put up! My boots also arrived!

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

My husband also bought me a Poe Dameron nerf blaster – to strip back and paint – I saw somewhere on the other forum that it can/has been approved in the past (I will sand off the branding etc and I know it is slightly bigger) – having not found anything to the contrary I am assuming this is still the case?

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Thanks in advance for your advice on the fabrics! I know I have probably gone way overboard – but I am so detail oriented (often a downside apparently! :roll: ) I want everything to be as close to perfect as I’m able to get it!

Helen

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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by BigFatCat » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:41 pm

Quite a lot of fabric to choose from there. It's easier to discount some for being too orange or the wrong weave and whittle down from there. The sunlight showing through would imply quite a light fabric so probably would need a charcoal or black lining.
Yes, the nerf blasters have cleared. I'm not a fan of them but they're easier to fix than going down the route of a more accurate 3d kit or resin option. Black series are reasonably simple to modify and I think my conversion wip is still about on here somewhere showing the filling needed for some parts.
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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:02 pm

Thanks again for your advice – it is much appreciated!

Great – I will stick to the nerf for now then – can always get a nice 3d kit done at a later date!

Awesome, I will have a look for your WIP regarding the black series – really useful thank you! I am looking forward to starting the helmet!

Ok so I have narrowed down my fabric choices!
I am ignoring Fabrics 2-4 and 8-16 for being either too red, too orange or the wrong weave.
Which leaves me with the following:

Fabric 1:
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Fabric 5:
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Fabric 6:
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

Fabric 7:
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

I think with some lining fabric 7 is my best option – its breathable (so comfortable to wear), it seems the right colour to me. I guess what worries me is that I’ve not seen anyone else using a similar fabric (although admittedly I may have missed it) and everyone has either gone for the cordura or solar cherry – is this cotton duck canvas too good to be true?!

You may have guessed by now but I have a habit of talking myself into or out of things!

Ok, so I definitely think fabric 7 – the cotton duck canvas with a lining will be the one I go for, as the weave is the same as the cordura, and I believe the colour match is correct from the reference images (see image below):

ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr

So I’m going to price it up, and leave this here for a few days in case anyone wants to tell me that I have completely misunderstood the standards or colour matching or that it definitely will not be a good enough fabric to be approved!
If all goes well – I should have the fabric then by next weekend and I can start putting the suit together!!

Thanks
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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by hfletcher_87 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:00 pm

I have been buying more things! :grin: I figured while I wait on any comments on the fabric choice I would crack on with sourcing other bits and pieces.

I have now ordered my belt and some spare roll pin buckles, some black webbing for the leg flare holder and some Chicago screws. I have also bought a Kwik Sew overall pattern just to give me a start point when it comes to making the flight suit. Oh and I have also bought the elastic ruffle for the arms and collar! :thumbsup:

I was looking at the webbing needed for the harness and wanted to just get the advice of people here as to which one of these two to get.
ImageUntitled by Helen Fletcher, on Flickr
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Things will start to move along nicely now I think! :cool:

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Re: Generic Resistance Pilot WIP

Post by BigFatCat » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:44 am

I'd have to go back to the discussion thread to confirm but there are 2 or even 3 types of webbing used for the harness. I recall there was 50mm polypropyle for the belt loops, paddles and rollpin section, then 38mm canvas for the leg loops. The rear strap could well be 50mm canvas.
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