Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

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Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by StephenDutton » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:05 pm

I wasn't planning on starting a WIP thread for this before I had finished my Corporal Casrich helmet but while in the process of gathering parts I got hold of a jacket that I want to check the colour of. I want to use this as the basis of the jacket to be worn under the M69 flak jacket (I managed to obtain a small size M69 flak jacket that will only come down to the bottom of my ribs rather than my waist as they are supposed to do for real soldiers). The problem is that I'm not sure about the colour of the jacket. On the rack it looked quite close to the pale jacket worn by some of the soldiers in the R1 visual guide but now I think it also looks lighter. On the other hand some of the other threads I've seen also seem to have a lighter jacket under the armour so I'd like an opinion on whether it is too pale.
The photo shows the basic jacket beside the M69:
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by BigFatCat » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:37 pm

The counterpart to the flak vest in the standards:

Zip-up canvas jacket in khaki, brown, or dark blue with military style stand collar.

I'd say it's lighter even than coyote but could be dyed. What's it made of? That collar might need some work as it's a strange design.
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by StephenDutton » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:54 pm

It's a standard commercial M65 coat. the great thing is that there is a panel inside that can be cut out for extra fabric to adapt the collar that is a perfect match for the colour of the jacket. The same place I got that from had a slightly darker one as well. If that fits then I'll just get that one and use this as an actual jacket. It was only £15 anyway.

Another question. The rows of stripes that I'll have to add to the sleeves of whatever jacket I do end up using, should these be raised up or can they be flat on the fabric? Can I just paint them on?

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Post by BigFatCat » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:33 pm

It was the angle and the Velcro strap that threw me. The stripes are open to debate, they don't look that raised to me.
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by Gremlin » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:38 pm

BigFatCat wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:33 pm
The stripes are open to debate, they don't look that raised to me.
The Scarif marines at MCM Glasgow had the stripes screen printed on their jackets, if I recall correctly.
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by Krayt55 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:42 am

I have a Magnoli jkt and the stripes are embroidered if thats any use?

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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by Gremlin » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:35 pm

Can you remember if the others' jackets were screen printed or embroidered, Mike?
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by Krayt55 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:59 am

Screen printed I think Claire.

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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by BigFatCat » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:09 am

They seem they they don't have a raised profile so I'm guessing they could be embroidered, screen printed or iron on.
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by Gremlin » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:48 am

Thanks, Mike and Geoff - I thought the cleared jackets were screen printed; good to know the options! :thumbsup:
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by tenebris » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:02 am

Standard doesn't specify, just colour and size...... so I think you could do which ever. Might be nice to pull a little ref gallery together to help people? You can 'screen print at home with a squeegy and an acetate template, or a template in painters tape and dylon fabric paint......lots of options.

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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by StephenDutton » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:44 am

If it is flat then I was thinking of just using Citadel acrylic paint and a template. From experience when that gets on clothing it sticks.

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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by Gremlin » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:26 am

StephenDutton wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:44 am
From experience when that gets on clothing it sticks.
Good to know! :wink: That sounds like the best option for you, then. Please post pics of you doing the painting - every bit of information helps others who'll be doing the same costume in the future! :thumbsup:
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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by StephenDutton » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:46 pm

I've been working on the flak vest, modifying and altering the colour.
M69FlakJacketBrown.jpg
with the M1 helmet
flakvestandm1.jpg
or the Corporal Casrich type
flakvestandcasrich.jpg
Obviously the sweatshirt and jeans are not part of the costume.

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Re: Stephen's attempt at a Scarif marine

Post by BigFatCat » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:51 am

Good to see that style lid, although I'm not a fan of its aesthetic. You've gone for a Melshi-style transponder it looks like.

Vest standards state tan or brown, so I'm guessing you're aiming for the darker of the two - the brown does look quite chocolately in some pics. Weathering can help change shading if you need so you should be OK.
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